Dell Notebook Batteries are Crap
[Addendum (June 21st, 2007): I noticed that this entry has been getting quite a bit of attention. I’d like to clarify that the blinking LED had this pattern: 3 amber flashes, followed by 1 green, and they just repeated that way; 3 amber, 1 green, 3 amber, 1 green, and so on. -End of addendum-] I can personally attest to that. I had my notebook’s battery replaced last year, a few months after the warranty had expired. That replacement set us back by some RM400. What was the problem, exactly? Here:

Notice the icon in my taskbar? It says that my battery was charging (I had the AC adapter plugged in, and switched on). However, the amber (which appear reddish) LED kept blinking - meaning something was not right with the battery. How did this affect me? Well, the battery couldn’t be fully charged. On top of that, it could only power my notebook up to about an hour, before I needed plug in my AC adapter to continue using.
So, remove the battery completely, you say. Then why the heck did we buy a notebook in the first place? It’s supposed to be mobile. With the battery in place, the amber LED kept blinking regardless of whether the AC adapter was plugged in or not. This of course, could get a little distracting. Above all, we knew that the battery was faulty - so how safe was it exactly, if we continued to ignore the warning? It’s not like we haven’t seen a Dell notebook exploding before, because of its battery.
In one of the emails the Dell Support team sent me last year, I was told to self-diagnose the battery and tell them the results. For this particular battery model, there are 6 green LEDs that are supposed to show you if the battery is OK, or not.

If the battery is OK, all 6 LEDs should light (refer to inset). If the battery is screwed, somehow only 3 of the LEDs would light. My old battery is still with me (environmentalists say don’t simply dispose of your batteries irresponsibly. Therefore, I don’t know how I can get rid of it. Any idea?). I don’t usually complain about Dell notebooks, because my family uses 3 Dell notebooks, and a desktop - also a Dell.
However, recently, my sister’s notebook’s battery is suffering from the same problem. Exactly the same symptoms, and same battery model (although different notebook model). We called up Dell’s Sales Dept., only to be told that a sales rep would contact us on the matter. To date, no calls have been received.
Here’s another juicy bit: Just two days ago (Monday, May 14th), my friend, Hui, asked me how I dealt with my faulty battery last year, because her notebook is now suffering from the same problem! She uses the same notebook model as mine. I was almost speechless. I said we paid RM400 for a new battery thinking it was an isolated incident. But now I know two other similar cases of faulty Dell notebook batteries (what are the odds?) - and it wasn’t even our fault that the battery had spoilt.

I somehow came to understand that the person-in-charge of my sister’s notebook’s Service Tag number has resigned. I was wondering if this was my problem at all.
To be fair, my notebook has not given me any other problems in the last two years. But the same cannot be said about my sister’s notebook - her LCD screen is playing up and I have strongly suggested that buying a new notebook would be a smarter choice, especially since her battery is also faulty. Furthermore, new notebooks these days don’t cost as much as they did 3 years ago. On a brighter note, since no one from Dell has returned our calls, we have had more time to consider buying a new notebook altogether. This time though, it might just not be another Dell.
16 May 2007 narrowband

I know someone who can help you with Dell’s product. You interested?
I know too :). Refer to the “…I somehow came to understand…” part. That’s how!
u shudnt have studied telecommunications engineering..you shud be doing…i dunno..IT or sth..or those abt high tech gadgets wan.hehehe most of the time im lost when u r talking abt the hi-tech terminology though. phaiseh. my aero lecturers didn’t teach ar.lol
go throw it in the battery recycling bin. found one at the sony ericsson centre in avenue k. don’t know where else got. =)
I can only attest to IBM Notebooks… no problems for the past 3 years and still doing alright, except for the slowww speed… but now, I’ve my ApPearl ;)
Oh, and the IBM battery, can last me for abt 1.5 hrs of usage… not that good too but still ok la… my new Fruit gives me at least 3 hrs! :)
And yes, your next notebook should not be a Dell… I heard Fujitsu notebooks are great too but of course the price is not too ‘pretty’… :)
Oh yeah, about the battery, there is a bin in Mid-Valley, I think… it’s either located at Level P1 (carpark level), but not sure whether it’s near Jusco end or the other end…
Hc - (By the way, to the uninitiated, my friend here uses the nick ‘pembesar’ because she has the ability to increase the size of… well, ‘things’) Wei those terms very general only leh. Layman terms already. I think you didn’t try to understand nia…
Jasmyin - You know, they should really promote ’safe and responsible disposal’ of batteries. How often do we see posters and signages that remind us not to simply trash our batteries? There is lack of awareness - Especially when it comes to those household batteries like AA and AAA ones.
Angel - Ya I read about your new Fruit - a recent purchase. More and more ppl I know are buying Mac. I have thought about it too. We’ll see :p As for the battery disposal, thanks for the info. Will keep my eyes peeled the next time I visit MV!
It’s a sign, a signal of the moment to let go~! hah but since apart from the batt everything is great, just dun be a b**ch and always thinking bout new ones orite?! after all, loyal ppl like u dun go around changing thing, rite vid? :)
Dell battery so bad meh? I haven’t tried mine becos most of the time using AC adapter. hehe…
Yeah, Dell batteries aren’t the greatest products in the world.
At my old office I was using an older version of Dell laptop which was normally plugged in with the AC adaptor. When my colleague fried his AC adaptor, we had to share one power cable between the two of us. Although a fully charged battery was supposed to last about an hour and a half, it would only tahan about 45 minutes and this charging time would dwindle down throughout the day until we were practically running back and forth with the power cable every 20 minutes!
And no, my ex-company did not shell out the $$$ to buy my colleague a new AC adaptor to the day I left. My colleague took the power cable then.
humm… im using dell inspiron 6400. experiencing weird problems with other stuffs, but once i change mobo, the problem subsided (means still got la, but lesser)
about batteries. i don’t know.
yes, lousy commenting by me. :P
however i do have something to say… my battery life is quite low because of constant discharge and charge… a 9 cell batt when i first bought it gave me nearly 5 hours of
porn watchingnormal usage… now… after nearly 10 months, 100% == 100 mins. sometimes abit more. also depends on the programs i’m running + the last time i restarted the laptop.oh ya. i only hibernate my laptop. once in a while (when RAM usage reaches 1GB) i’ll restart it.
Jian - It’s not my notebook lah. It’s my sister’s. Mine is no problem rite now. Hers, apart from the battery problem, LCD also abit sot.
ECL - I also leh… but with the battery pack plugged in (to the notebook) la. Some people suggest that the battery should be disconnected from the notebook if you plan to use the AC adapter for a long time. But I thought Dell laptops have a power management system that’s supposed to take care of this…. I dunno.
Rinnah - Well, old batteries generally have a shorter lifespan ler (including handphones, mp3 players, etc).. let’s be fair to Dell, hehe. In fact, Dell’s batteries are manufactured by Sony. HP and some other notebook companies also had at least one incident of battery recalls in recent years. Their batteries are also manufactured by Sony, I think.
Cincau - Yea like I said, batteries’ lifespan generally decrease over time - depending on usage. Summore you so dem power user. Oh, I’ve been hibernating recently too - Because the booting-up takes like about two dinosaur ages’ time. Coming out of stand-by is much quicker.
hi, what is ur sis’s laptop lcd problem? the backlight sot sot dei d?? flickering and off ?? My laptop LCD also sot d, the backlight of the LCD often on off on off. I called dell and they suggested me to extend my warranty which cost Rm749, or just change the LCD and it cost Rm850.
I’m thinking whether should i change it or not.
Change to Apple lorh.. Going to grad dy, don’t need to use those engineering software liao! Yippee..
I am a customer advocate here at Dell headquarters in Texas. I just found this post and wanted to clear up some confusion about what the computer is trying to say.
When the battery indicator on the hinge is flashing orange it means the battery has a low charge. That light will continue to flash, even while it is charging, until the battery has enough charge to no longer be considered ‘low’. Once the charge is high enough the light will change to a solid green to indicate it it charging.
How long it will take to recharge the battery depends on whether you are using the computer at the time (it takes about half as long to recharge the battery while the system is connected to AC but powered down, as it does when the computer is being used).
The batteries for notebook computers typically are rated for about 400 cycles of use. Under normal circumstances this would be about one year, but the actual time the battery will last depends on how it is being used. This is why batteries normally have a one year warranty.
The picture of the batteries with the alternating on/off lights indicates the batteries themselves have failed. If a battery has failed then the best thing to do is replace it. Using a failed battery is not recommended due to the potential problems.
For the LCD problem you mention your sister’s computer having, there are a couple of simple steps you can try. One is to connect an external monitor to see if it works properly, or if it also has the problem (use Fn+F8 to switch between LCD only, external only, and both at once). If the external monitor also fails to show a picture then the video card or motherboard may be the problem. If the external monitor works fine then the LCD cable or LCD panel is most likely the cause. Another simple troubleshooting step would be to reseat the LCD cable on the motherboard. This is a relatively easy thing to do if you are comfortable with working with computer components (the service manual on the Dell support site has full instructions on how to check that cable, as well as every other part of the notebook).
If you have other questions about the battery or the LCD panel problems I will be more than happy to answer them. I can be reached by email at customer_advocate@dell.com (with ‘ATTN: Larry’ in the subject). Alternately, you can call into Dell technical support and they can help you troubleshoot the problem.
Larry
Dell Customer Advocate
Hi Larry.
Thanks for your attention. I like what you guys (CAs) are doing - a commendable effort, really. On the LCD problem, thanks for the troubleshooting tip. Will try that out first thing tomorrow morning.
Further correspondence, if necessary, will be made via email.
p.s: Pardon the language in the entry.
Cheers :)
I’m just glad I could help. Hopefully you won’t need to email me, but if you do I’ll be happy to help further.
Larry
Dell Customer Advocate
Wow, a Dell Customer Advocate commented in your blog, luluband ~~ ( *amazed 8O )
I am having the same problems with my Inspiron 6000, how do you do a diagonse check on the battery, meaning how do you get the LED’s to light up?
Just press that round, white-coloured picture (it’s actually a button, press it), to the left of the first LED from the pics above.
Hey I have a dell and all 6 lcd light light up but it die’s after 20 min’s off the charger what the hell is wrong with it??
sorry all 5 lcd light light up but i tryed keeping it on the charger for 24 hour’s and noting take it off and 20 min’s later it’s sayin please plug in battery is low
Write to Larry, Dustin :). I wish I could help but I’m no Dell employee. Besides, I don’t know what’s the problem with your computer.
Dustin, I’ll be happy to help any way I can. Just send me an email (customer_advocate@dell.com) with ‘ATTN: Larry (battery)’ as the subject line. If you can describe in the email what is happening with the computer, and what you have already tried to fix things, that will help me figure out what is wrong, and what needs to be done to get things fixed.
Larry
Dell Customer Advocate
I just have the same problem too. The battery led, and also the second led near the battery are flashing orange. Qnd of course once the plug is out, notebook turns off….
I always use my notebook with AC plug. I was not even using it on battery only.
It is Dell inspiron 6000. And it was not even 2 years since I bought the notebook…
Hi Larry,
hope u can help me? Can u tell me where can i find Dell technical support in Miri, Sarawak? Thanks!
As the owner of this personal weblog, I’m compelled to clarify that this site is in no way affiliated with Dell Inc.. I would suggest that all inquiries be channeled directly to the company.
Imelda, contact Dell Malaysia’s Customer Service.
Actually, Larry has also provided an email address, but… nevermind. You’d have used it if you wanted to anyway. Not many Dell people drop by here often, you know :)
Good luck.